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First Husband

The entry refers to "Rilkis," but does not give his first name, any background or even when they were married and when and how the marriage ended (death? divorce?) Then refers to her second husband. This seems a pretty serious omission for a bio entry.TheCormac (talk) 01:49, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

After his movie investments, his nickname was "Meshugganah Reckless." Profhum (talk) 08:26, 24 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Urban myth

The following by a anonomous editor was removed to bjaodn

>>>Such was Pia Zadora's reputation as an actress, the urban legend grew that, whilst playing the part of Anne Frank in the play of the eponymous heroine's life, at the point at which a Nazi soldier kicked the door down and shouted at the occupants, "Where is she? Where is Anne Frank?!!" The audience, as one, replied, "She's in the attic!"

Regrettably, there is no truth in this. Regrettably, there is no truth in this. <<<

I remember reading this in a review magazine years ago, so it must bear some weight as an urban legend worthy of note? Dainamo 08:59, 1 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Snopes has a page about this rumour. It's also been told about the British actress Patsy Kensit. Probably someone hearing the gag but amending it as Zadora isn't as well known in the UK. Djarra

It's legitimate to note that the urban legend exists, as long as it's written properly. I've added it back to the page, citing the Snopes link and clarifying that it's an urban legend. Bearcat 09:29, 21 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Does it make sense in the "music" section though? 12.162.122.6 (talk) 17:50, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Polish?

Does anyone have a source for the category? I couldn't find anything. JackO'Lantern 04:35, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

[1]"Tuesday at 8 pm, E!: The E! True Hollywood Story: Pia Zadora. The tiny blonde Polish-American singer-actress with the tycoon hubby became a national joke back in the late '70s. This documentary surprises in two ways: by winning sympathy for Pia, and by revealing her to be a thoughtful, talented woman. ExRat 08:03, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Assuming her mother's maiden name was, in fact, Zadorowski, that should tip you off. Along with her big lips (a la some other Polish actresses, such as Loretta Swit). I like that quote. For all the public ridicule (much of which she brought upon herself, in part, as she has said, because she has a "funny name") when she has appeared on talk shows she has come across as bright, warm and engaging. Wahkeenah 09:12, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well it's pretty irrelevant what her mother's name was. Either we have a good source or we don't. But the source that ExRat presented seems good. Mad Jack O'Lantern 22:39, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, now that we've gotten the Polish part out of the way, does anyone have a reliable source that she is Italian-American? All I could find are shakey trivia sites Mad Jack 22:06, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

NPOV

"In an interview with Larry King, at the peak of her popularity / notoriety, she came across as warm, intelligent and engaging"

Is this NPOV? Isn't this opinion?

chrisboote 14:06, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it's documented anywhere that she "came across as warm, intelligent and engaging". Looks like an opinion. Therefore it's POV and should be removed. Rossrs 14:17, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

musical abilities

Musically, she earned NO respect ANYWHERE, sorry to say, as she was the broad of someone who imagined being in love with a musical talent which she did not own. He was a wealthy suitcase maker, she was an eternal-child-impersonator. That man would be in jail nowadays for his taste. But Muhamed and others from the desert there prefered YOUNG women/girls as can be read in their scriptures. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.185.232.43 (talk) 22:52, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Date of birth in error?

This article lists her date of birth as May 4, 1954; i.e., that she just turned 59 years old last month. No source for the birthdate is provided.

An Associated Press story published today (http://www.philly.com/philly/entertainment/20130602_ap_actresspiazadoraarrestedondomesticbattery.html) refers to her as "The 61-year-old Zadora," giving her a birthdate no later than 1952. Does anyone have a source for the "May 4, 1954" claim? TJRC (talk) 19:26, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I played with Pia when we were kids. I'm sure we were the same age. Birth year 1952 is far more likely. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.187.200.182 (talk) 16:36, 29 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Amended to 1953, as per The New York Times article, which is based upon the usually reliable Rovi source. Anyone else is welcome to challenge this edit, but a reliable, third party source is required to be worthy of discussion.

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 12:27, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"Current" residence

The articles says she "currently resides" in two different places, Summerlin and Vegas. Aside from the issue of saying anything is "current" on WP, this probably could use some clarification. Kendall-K1 (talk) 19:15, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Summerlin, Nevada is a neighborhood of Las Vegas, so these are one and the same place. 2A0D:6FC2:5720:8300:999D:C041:2201:D4A3 (talk) 04:35, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Domestic violence call/SWAT incident

This incident seems relevant. Granted, without a source for charges/outcome of the case, a single police call isn't necessarily much. In this case, though, we have the police entering the house uninvited, the confrontation in the house and her house surrounded by a SWAT team (so she takes a nap?). Thoughts? - SummerPhD^v2.0 16:58, 27 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say no. If there had been a pattern here, sure. Something like that shows up in Nicholas Brendon, unfortunately, because there's a significant pattern. If she's convicted or pleads guilty, sure; maybe even if only tried and found not guilty. But we shouldn't be in the interest of cataloguing subjects' arrests.

This reminds me of when Paul Simon and Edie Brickell were arrested for mutual domestic violence a couple years back. There was a flurry to get it into their Wikipedia articles, but in the long run, it was left out. Think of the ten-year test here. Is there any reason to believe this has long-term encyclopedic value? We don't need to scoop other sources, we are an encyclopedia; and there is no deadline. TJRC (talk) 18:43, 27 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Seems a bit vague: "If there has been a pattern". Is Rick Ross' 2011 arrest for pot possession (no info on charges) part of a pattern because of a 2008 arrest on "gun and marijuana charges" (no charges)? Is Jennifer Lien's domestic violence charge part of a pattern with a speeding arrest which is part of a pattern with a strange dispute with a neighbor? Is Don McLean's domestic violence charge part of a pattern with not finding alcohol at the levee and ending up with the "good old boys...drinking whiskey and rye"? Nick Carter's misdemeanor battery arrest? Nelly? Manu Bennett? Angie Stone?

A number of those show no indication of charges.

Yes, I get that we are not a tabloid, we don't have a deadline, we aren't the news, etc. That said, a quick search says there's more here. The surrounded by a SWAT team, cutting the power to the house and using flashbang grenades?[2] Zadora accepted a plea deal.[3] Her husband was fired from the police force over the incident and now has filed a civil rights suit.[4][5][6]

With all of that, it seems to be worth a couple of sentences, IMO. - SummerPhD^v2.0 00:08, 28 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I see no reason not to wait for the outcome, at present is seems only notable to tabloids. Mlpearc (open channel) 00:22, 28 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Without checking those articles specifically, perhaps the failings in them should be repaired, rather than mimicked in more articles. WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS has never really been a persuasive argument. TJRC (talk) 19:42, 28 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly, OTHERCRAPEXISTS. Simon/Brickell is other crap. Do we have a policy or guideline to base this on? At the moment, we have the promise that Simon/Brickell was handled correctly and the others were not and the statement that it is only of interest to tabloids (like CNN and the Las Vegas Review-Journal?). Yes, there's no deadline and we don't have to wait for an outcome (or not wait[7]): The flashbang grenades went off 3 years ago, she took a plea bargain, her husband was fired and he's suing the police department -- all in non-tabloid reliable sources. Meanwhile, the article says, "Zadora has been married to Michael Jeffries, a detective with the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department...". I can reference that he is not with LV Metro, but not police/SWAT team/flashbang grenades/fired/lawsuit leading up to that? See if you can find a reliable source that says he was with LV Metro, without mentioning why. In terms of importance in the article, to me, a SWAT team surrounding her house is somewhere between Golden Globe Award as New Star of the Year (must be in the article) and where her daughter's name came from/radio station call letters/here are some fundraisers she showed up for. - SummerPhD^v2.0 23:16, 28 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Page is inaccessible

This page, or a page on the surname "Zadora", or a list of people named "Zadora", should be the page that a person arrives at when searching Wikipedia for the word "Zadora". A search for "Zadora" should NOT go to a page about an alleged Polish coat of arms for "Zadora" on which NO PERSON LISTED has the last name "Zadora". If this was vandalism, please prosecute. Even if all of the information on the coat-of-arms page is genuine, it's unconscionable that a search for "Zadora" should go to that page.2603:7000:9906:A91C:1C64:8308:33BC:E2D6 (talk) 19:09, 4 July 2021 (UTC)Christopher L. Simpson[reply]

Photo

I'm surprised we have no photo. Here is one that could be used. Not the best photo, but the best I could find. [8] GA-RT-22 (talk) 03:29, 26 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]